[Nix-dev] [***SPAM***] Re: experience packager or coder to help me with cinnamon

[Roelof Wobben]

Oke,
 
I will try again and try to ask really questions.
 
I think a lot of questions are how to patch autogen.sh so the path and dependencies are allright.
 
Roelof

 
> From: phreedom at yandex.ru
> To: nix-dev at lists.science.uu.nl
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 12:39:55 +0200
> Subject: [Nix-dev] [***SPAM***] Re: experience packager or coder to help me	with cinnamon
> 
> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 07:31:29 PM Roelof Wobben wrote:
> > Im now 3 days at work to make cinnamon-desktop working so Nixos can have
> > Cinnamon 2.x It looks like to me the configure and make files are really
> > broken. On make I see several error messages about missing and not found
> > error messages.
> > 
> > Now I wonder if there is a experienced packager of coder who is willing to
> > be a sort of mentor so we get the packages working.
> 
> I don't think there are experienced packagers who are *unwilling* to help. 
> However, everyone has a todo list and a real life that gets in the way. If you 
> want assistance, you have to be patient.
> 
> If you want things to happen faster, you have to be ready to get your hands 
> dirty and reach under the hood. If there's a systematic problem with 
> configure/makefiles, it makes sense to invest some time into looking at the 
> source. These files may be big, but they certainly are rather simple.
> 
> You have to realize that the build errors you are getting aren't reported by 
> nix, they are produced by these files. When you look at the sources, it 
> becomes quite clear what went wrong. Is it because a path is wrong or 
> hardcoded? Which env var/configure parameter influeces the searched paths? Is 
> there some undocumented(but very obiouvs) var/parameter that you can set to 
> point the buildsystem in the right direction?
> 
> Now that you know what went wrong, you can reformulate your question like 
> "what is the best practice to do X in nixpkgs?" where X could be passing an 
> ENV var to the builder, patching a makefile or other simple technical 
> question. Such questions can be quickly answered by grepping the source, or 
> looking at similar packages(or packages with similar deps). If you ask simple, 
> technical and nix-related questions in the channel, you are also much more 
> likely to get a quick response, because people often just know the answer.
> 
> It is very unfortunate that cinnamon has problems in the buildsystem 
> department. There are large (and larger) software suites which follow the best 
> practice packaging, such as X11, KDE, and thus require very little or no hacks 
> and sometimes are even autopackaged by scripts.
> 
> If you feel strongly about Cinnamon, you might also want to do the right thing 
> and fix their buildsystem instead/in adddition and contribute your fixes 
> upstream.
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